Transphobic Remarks at the Golden Globes

I wanted to take a break from my typical life musings to talk about the Golden Globe controversy.

Ricky Gervais was accused of being transphobic at the Golden Globes (click highlighted name to view footage).

In the video, Gervais says:  “I’m going to be nice tonight. I’ve changed. Not as much as Bruce Jenner, obviously… now Caitlyn Jenner. What a year she’s had. She became a role model for trans people everywhere, showing great bravery in breaking down barriers and destroying stereotypes … She didn’t do a lot for women drivers, but you can’t have everything, can you?”

After receiving a lot of criticism for his choice of jest, he published a few related tweets:


What do you guys think? Is that transphobic? …as a follower of his career, I find it to be typical Gervais sexism comedy. I expect nothing less from him -not that I deem casual sexism acceptable in the slightest. I’m having a hard time viewing these comments as transphobic, and I also think these allegations towards him might be distracting us from discussing the frequency of casual sexism in comedy routines.

I want to hear your thoughts -my opinions are only that of one woman. How do you feel about his comments?

B&B 

11 thoughts on “Transphobic Remarks at the Golden Globes

  1. Yeah, I was more struck by the casual sexism than the latent transphobia. Clearly he thinks women (both trans and cis) are fair game to mock, ridicule and generally insult. The ‘jokes’ are not funny frankly. But let’s be clear his comments were both sexist and if not transphobic, certainly insulting of transwomen. But the sexism was probably more pronounced imho. Move on, nothing more to see here.

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    1. I completely agree. Sexism, comedy or non, should not be tolerated. It kind of bugged me that everyone jumped on the “transphobic” wagon, for the sheer fact that his obvious sexist joke was completely dismissed. Comedians mock people, okay whatever, but he mocked her as a woman. She’s a woman; she’s being mocked as a woman, and now being used as the poster woman for female driving stereotypes(in his joke). I didn’t appreciate that, as a woman.

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    2. > Clearly he thinks women (both trans and cis) are fair game to mock, ridicule and generally insult.

      Yes he does. He treats women the same as he treats men – as fair game!

      This is one of the consequences ‘gender equality’ has had on comedy. Everybody is now fair game.

      In the past (at the height of the ‘patriarchy’) women were considered off limits for mockery, and men were even expected to moderate their tone and their language in the presence of women. Any man using course language around women or speaking candidly about grown up subjects (like sex, crimes, scandals, sleaze etc) was liable to get punched on the nose by the nearest chivalrous man – keen to protect the women in the room from the horrors of uncensored speech!

      But today most women actually enjoy participating in such free and informal banter, and they enjoy women being a part of the mockery that men have always subjected each other to. In fact some women even enjoy being stand up comics themselves and mocking women as hard (in not harder) than they mock men.

      But some other women do not like this modern gender equality society. They want people like Ricky Gervais to adhere to the old fashioned code of ‘chivalry’ where a woman’s honour is paramount, and women are treated like young children (sweet, innocent, fragile, naive). These women often call themselves ‘feminists’ or ‘social justice warriors’. They are basically traditionalists who want to maintain the traditional, rigid, paternalistic, patriarchal gender roles for men and women.

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      1. I don’t think anyone expects chivalry from comedians, especially not feminists. Not wanting people to lump all women together using stereotypes isn’t chivalry, it’s wanting stereotypes to be eradicated from social normalcy. Casual sexism isn’t “gender equality at play”, it’s misogynist. I’d love to hear frequently used stereotypes of casual sexism posed against a (non-minority) white man. You know, since it’s gender (and we know race) equal and that everyone is fair game.

        Thank you for your responses! Conversations amongst mindsets of all kinds are what makes change happens. I appreciate it! Xx

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      2. I only watched the relevant clip to form an opinion so I cannot comment and do not care about the rest of his performance. I do not however believe too many (any?) male comedians ridicule men for being men. Men as a class are not mocked for supposedly being bad drivers for example. Women as a rule do not want to be treated as delicate specimens about to broken by a nasty word, but we do expect to be respected and not be mocked because of who are what we are or indeed who and what we are not. I think you may have firmly grasped the wrong end of this stick.

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      3. > I don’t think anyone expects chivalry from comedians, especially not feminists.

        That is precisely what feminists and the politically correct are asking for in this case. They are literally asking for comedians to not mock women – and women only – because it upsets them. That is them demanding chivalry. He for she.

        > Not wanting people to lump all women together using stereotypes isn’t chivalry, it’s wanting stereotypes to be eradicated from social normalcy.

        Stereotypes are just categories with a shared theme. They are based on reality. A stereotype which is not based on reality makes no sense. The stereotypical tumblr feminist with blue hair, problem glasses, a “I drink male tears” coffee mug, clown make up, and a submissive ‘beta’ boyfriend is a stereotype we all understand. It does not represent ALL feminists, but it represents a significant number of them – enough to make sense.

        The stereotype of the easy going feminist, who works a manual labour job, supports men’s rights issues and has a natural no hair dye/ no make up look and practical clothing and financially support the man in her life makes no sense because there is probably no person in the world who fits this description. It is a totally nonsensical (and therefore unfair) stereotype for this reason.

        Wanting to eradicate stereotypes of people (men, women, gays, truck drivers, politicians, blondes, nerds etc) is like wanting to eradicate genres of music, or national cuisines. It might be unfair to say that a particular band is ‘jazz’… but the stereotypical ‘jazz band’ still exists as a stereotype. It is still a thing.

        The joke was funny because of Jenner’s rather unique position as a transexual. As I understand it Jenner ran a woman down and killed her while still living (and driving) as a man, and then recently had a sex change operation and started to live (and drive) as a woman. Gervais is playing with the popular stereotype of women as bad drivers, attributing the crash to stereotypical women driving – even though Jenner was living as a man at the time.

        The joke is a trap. If you claim the crash was NOT an example of a bad woman driver you are denying Jenner’s ‘true’ identity…. but if you accept her true identity at the time, you have to concede she is another example of a bad woman driver. It’s quite a sophisticated joke actually.

        Like most jokes the humour comes from creating a feeling of discomfort and dis-ease in the audience (cognitive dissonance) through subversion or social conventions (morality etc) or just absurdity … which for normal people is resolved by laughing or groaning or wincing in the face of this absurdity or moral discomfort … but for people with no sense of humour it is not resolved at all. Like a computer they cannot deal with the nuances of cognitive dissonance, and so they get upset and complain about and demand an apology etc which is a bit like a computer crashing.

        And some people just use every joke as an opportunity to claim the moral high ground, and use it as a club to beat everyone else with. This is a very passive aggressive behaviour. It is just a joke. And there is nothing inherently sexist or transphobic about it.

        Using the joke to attack Gervais, or men in general, is an example of exploiting women and trans people to serve your own anti men agenda. It insults them as much as it insults men.

        > Casual sexism isn’t “gender equality at play”, it’s misogynist.

        No. Mocking stereotypes associated with men or women is not sexism. It is gender equality at play, provided men and women are both fair game – which they are for most comedians, including Gervais. Gervais made an entire career out of ridiculing men (David Brent/ Michael Scott/ Dwight/ Gareth etc) and his male characters mock various male stereotypes just as savagely as his female characters mocked female stereotypes.

        To demand comedians like Gervais stop mocking women – and women only – IS ITSELF SEXIST BEHAVIOUR.

        To demand he stops mocking men AND women equally would be demanding an end to comedy full stop.

        > I’d love to hear frequently used stereotypes of casual sexism posed against a (non-minority) white man. You know, since it’s gender (and we know race) equal and that everyone is fair game.

        Feminists themselves are the most guilty of stereotyping non-minority white men as PRIVILEGED, as RAPISTS and SYSTEMATIC OPPRESSORS OF WOMEN (which defines them as sociopaths).

        These stereotypes of men are unfair (unlike Gervais’ stereotypes which have some truth to them) because men (including cis white men) have LESS legal rights than women. By every criteria men are worse off than women …. life expectancy, suicide rates, homeless rates, available shelters and helplines and other sex specific services, conviction and sentencing rates (men get 60% longer sentences than women for the same crimes), genital integrity (male babies are still mutilated in the west), workplace deaths (95% are men), violence in public (men are the majority of victims), child custody, divorce law, reproductive autonomy (men have no reproductive rights at all!). In every area men score worse than women.

        So feminists stereotyping men as uniquely and universally ‘privileged’ and ‘powerful’ is totally unfair ….. and sexist.

        And to make matters worse feminists never stereotype women in a similar way as also being powerful or privileged as women. In fact feminists refuse to acknowledge any female privilege or power at all….. unless they are pressed to do so, in which case they might reluctantly acknowledge a few examples but only until the conversation is over – at which point they revert back to defining women as universal victims (AKA patriarchy theory).

        So if you are going to talk about unfair gender stereotypes and casual sexism, maybe you need to look at feminists first. Feminists are the most guilty group in all of society.

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      4. > Women as a rule do not want to be treated as delicate specimens about to broken by a nasty word

        I agree. Feminists only represent 20% of women. The majority of women reject feminist ideology and do NOT view themselves as ‘acted upon’ victims of a ‘male dominated’ society.

        I doubt ALL feminists were offended by Gervais’ humour, so that leaves maybe 10% of women who were offended by the joke…?

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      5. You’re responding to your own comments now? -I have no interest in your anti-feminism yammerings. Please feel free to share your agenda on your own unused site. You can appeal to an audience that appreciates your thoughts, and doesn’t find them exhaustive and that of an old world.

        Please stop commenting on my site, as I have no interest in engaging any further.

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  2. POLITICALLY CORRECT OPINION: Trans women AND cis women are too weak and feeble to be included in a stand up comic’s routines. They lack the humour that men have which enables men to be able to take jokes about them in their stride without throwing a hissy fit and acting like a princess.

    POLITICALLY INCORRECT OPINION: Trans women AND cis women are strong enough to take a joke, same as the rest of society. They also have every right to be included in public mockery, parody, satire and other forms of absurdity which serve as a ‘social glue’, as well as an effective way stop any particular group getting ideas above their station. Any group claiming the right to be exempt from criticism or mockery is – by definition – positioning themselves above the rest of society.

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